Comments on: Packers Game Re-Cap http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/11/04/packers-game-re-cap/ The Definitive Minnesota Vikings Blog! Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:42:50 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: G.P. http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/11/04/packers-game-re-cap/comment-page-1/#comment-12322 G.P. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:40:49 +0000 http://www.vikingsgab.com/?p=2266#comment-12322 I have no doubt, emphasis on the no part that Allen will become “That Guy". Leslie Frasier seems to be a smart dude. Perhaps he recognizes that good things have the potential to become great things when given the proper time and cultivation. I know of a few CB’s that have spent their entire careers being relatively lack luster players with slow footwork and mediocre skills. They would make good rent-a-cops. I agree with Boynton’s incomplete grade and the brief explanation provided. We’ve yet to see what the kid is fully capable of. Everyone loves a finished product. Funny, but when I’ve built something myself or pieced something together little by little I tend to find it more valuable. Simply because I know exactly what it took to get it right. Allen is not a finished product. He does however posses a solid foundation and that’s where it all begins. At least he has a few plays to hang his hat on. That’s more than I can say for Paymah “The Painful” and Sapp “The Sand Trap.” One is painful to watch and the other is slowly but surely sinking. Give the kid a season he’s currently earning his stripes. Trust me on this one you'll have reason to get giddy sooner than later. I have no doubt, emphasis on the no part that Allen will become “That Guy”. Leslie Frasier seems to be a smart dude. Perhaps he recognizes that good things have the potential to become great things when given the proper time and cultivation. I know of a few CB’s that have spent their entire careers being relatively lack luster players with slow footwork and mediocre skills. They would make good rent-a-cops. I agree with Boynton’s incomplete grade and the brief explanation provided. We’ve yet to see what the kid is fully capable of. Everyone loves a finished product. Funny, but when I’ve built something myself or pieced something together little by little I tend to find it more valuable. Simply because I know exactly what it took to get it right. Allen is not a finished product. He does however posses a solid foundation and that’s where it all begins. At least he has a few plays to hang his hat on. That’s more than I can say for Paymah “The Painful” and Sapp “The Sand Trap.” One is painful to watch and the other is slowly but surely sinking. Give the kid a season he’s currently earning his stripes.

Trust me on this one you’ll have reason to get giddy sooner than later.

]]> By: Adam Warwas http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/11/04/packers-game-re-cap/comment-page-1/#comment-12304 Adam Warwas Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:06:56 +0000 http://www.vikingsgab.com/?p=2266#comment-12304 G.P., I know every time I type the name "Asher" on my keyboard that I'll be hearing from you soon enough... and that's a good thing. Don't mistake my disappointment as a total loss of faith. I was more disappointed because you've managed to hype this kid up to me so much that I find myself giddy with anticipation of what he can do... seriously (I worry that came off in a mocking tone, but it isn't meant that way). I agree that Allen has more excuses than do Sapp or Paymah... but excuses run out eventually. He needs to become a consistent playmaker in order to earn more chances to prove himself. A third round pick gets the benefit of the doubt for about two or three years before he starts looking for work at a shopping mall. I'm really pulling for Allen to prove himself, even with half of his rookie year gone by with not much to hang his hat on besides one or two plays. With 'Toine and Griffin locked onto the roster and Paymah and Sapp free agents this offseason, I'd love to see Allen develop into "that guy" before he loses his job because the Vikings decide to draft or sign another corner. You've gotten to me, G.P., and I really am rooting hard for the kid. Which is why his performance was all the more disappointing. Here's hoping for a big rebound. G.P., I know every time I type the name “Asher” on my keyboard that I’ll be hearing from you soon enough… and that’s a good thing.

Don’t mistake my disappointment as a total loss of faith. I was more disappointed because you’ve managed to hype this kid up to me so much that I find myself giddy with anticipation of what he can do… seriously (I worry that came off in a mocking tone, but it isn’t meant that way).

I agree that Allen has more excuses than do Sapp or Paymah… but excuses run out eventually. He needs to become a consistent playmaker in order to earn more chances to prove himself. A third round pick gets the benefit of the doubt for about two or three years before he starts looking for work at a shopping mall. I’m really pulling for Allen to prove himself, even with half of his rookie year gone by with not much to hang his hat on besides one or two plays.

With ‘Toine and Griffin locked onto the roster and Paymah and Sapp free agents this offseason, I’d love to see Allen develop into “that guy” before he loses his job because the Vikings decide to draft or sign another corner.

You’ve gotten to me, G.P., and I really am rooting hard for the kid. Which is why his performance was all the more disappointing. Here’s hoping for a big rebound.

]]> By: G.P. http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/11/04/packers-game-re-cap/comment-page-1/#comment-12300 G.P. Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:28:04 +0000 http://www.vikingsgab.com/?p=2266#comment-12300 Oh Warwas, so quick to voice your disappointment in Allen. Let’s look at the bigger picture. It’s not like the kid has four years of NFL experience under his belt or spent a few seasons sitting behind Champ Bailey cornerback extraordinaire and still hasn’t managed to start more than five games in his entire career. Nor, does he constantly get spanked in the foot race. Or perhaps get juked on plays because he’s slow and sometimes confused. Now that is silly and cause for concern. The fact of the matter is the Allen is young and finding his footing. The lack of experience does not detract from his potential to be a great cornerback. Lest we not forget that last week Double A had a forced fumble, three tackles and a sack. The kid has proven that he has talent and ability. What I saw Sunday was someone who wasn’t always successful in his attempts to make plays. I’ll give you that. However, I attribute this to excitement and youth. Homie still, managed to slam on a dude or two or three. I believe he contributed three tackles this time around. Now if he ever plays for four years, doesn’t learn a thing from a very talented and skilled cornerback around him, gets beat like he stole something a lot of the time, and can’t seem to learn that you must actually complete tackles in order to benefit the team. I’ll say he looks a little silly. Luckily, the position of cornerback clown is currently filled by someone else on the team. Oh Warwas, so quick to voice your disappointment in Allen. Let’s look at the bigger picture. It’s not like the kid has four years of NFL experience under his belt or spent a few seasons sitting behind Champ Bailey cornerback extraordinaire and still hasn’t managed to start more than five games in his entire career. Nor, does he constantly get spanked in the foot race. Or perhaps get juked on plays because he’s slow and sometimes confused. Now that is silly and cause for concern. The fact of the matter is the Allen is young and finding his footing. The lack of experience does not detract from his potential to be a great cornerback. Lest we not forget that last week Double A had a forced fumble, three tackles and a sack. The kid has proven that he has talent and ability. What I saw Sunday was someone who wasn’t always successful in his attempts to make plays. I’ll give you that. However, I attribute this to excitement and youth. Homie still, managed to slam on a dude or two or three. I believe he contributed three tackles this time around. Now if he ever plays for four years, doesn’t learn a thing from a very talented and skilled cornerback around him, gets beat like he stole something a lot of the time, and can’t seem to learn that you must actually complete tackles in order to benefit the team. I’ll say he looks a little silly. Luckily, the position of cornerback clown is currently filled by someone else on the team.

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