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New CBA Increases Webb’s Value

A report has surfaced that under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, the emergency quarterback rules are being tossed out and that the active game day roster will increase to 46 guys.

Under the previous rules, teams typically had two active quarterbacks on game day.  The third string guy would dress, but if he was called into the game for any reason, then the first and second string quarterbacks were not allowed to re-enter the game at any point.

Prior to the Draft, I suggested that the Vikings would select their quarterback of the future (done) and also go after a veteran quarterback (still expected), leaving Joe Webb and Rhett Bomar to duke it out for the third spot.  I did go so far as to suggest the team might carry four quarterbacks, especially if they wanted to see Webb take on a utility role similar to that of Brad Smith in New York.

We have seen many varying opinions on where Webb will fall on the depth chart.  The truth is, however, this rule change means all Webb has to do is make the active roster to make an impact on game day.

Whether he is first, second, or third on the depth chart the Vikings should be able to take advantage of his availability at any point of any game.  He can line up as a return man, wildcat quarterback, or wide out to keep defensive coordinators guessing.

If Bill Musgrave is willing to get creative, and they have the time to practice some plays designed just for Webb, we could see some fun stuff three or four times per game in 2011.

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18 Responses to “New CBA Increases Webb’s Value”

  1. LeCount80 says:

    I like the possibilities….

  2. Fragile Freds says:

    Assumptions include the fact that Jumpin Joe has the ability to catch a punt or for that matter catch a pass in the pros or even throw a td pass. Freds thinks we have seen that our guy is big, fast and can jump blue gym mats. Aside from that Joe hasn’t done a thing. Joe is a tweener who Freds hopes works as a QB only, becomes good over time and we forget about the flash and crazy ass scenarios of this guy doing everything including 90 yard field goals. Being a great athlete and being an effective football player don’t always go hand in hand. Nothing against Webb, but there is a reason he was drafted in round 45.

    • Adam Warwas says:

      So, Freds, you don’t see much value in a Josh Cribbs or Brad Smith type player? Or you just don’t think Webb can be that guy?

      • Fragile Freds says:

        Cribbs is a good example of my point. Cleveland didn’t use this guy as a QB even though that is the position he played in college. They saw his quickness, found out he could return punts and invested in him as a returner/receiver. He’s thrown a trick pass from time to time, but Cleveland wouldn’t say he is a QB asset high on the depth chart. Cribbs showed value as a player in year one as a pro.

        Freds hates the wild cat the way the Jets play it, or as anyone else plays it. Brad Smith should sit and leave the game to Sanchez.

        Until the Vikes define Joe has the ability to play pro football at even one position, we should all relax. Your old pal is simply saying we’ve seen nothing from Joe anywhere in year one that would lead us to believe he can return punts, catch passes, kick field goals or sell pop corn. If he has Cribbs type quickness, please let him return punts. Doubt it though.

        Let Joe develop as a 3rd string QB or 5th string receiver, Freds doesn’t care. Let’s hope he is a star, it just gets old hearing how great his potential is, when he hasn’t show the ability yet.

        Can he beat of Jaymar Johnson as a receiver?

        If we are going to go wild cat, Cheech would be my choice over Joe.

        Please, no wild cat, please!

        • Adam Warwas says:

          You know that the two of us agree on Webb’s potential as a QB (plenty disagree with us though).

          I do think he showed he can throw passes at the NFL level though, plus elude NFL defenders, plus return kicks, and by all accounts catch passes (in camp). So, the only excuse for not getting creative with Webb (wherever he is on the depth chart) is some weird aversion to creativity.

          Of course, those who felt Brad Childress was the 2011 coach of the year, might also be opposed to offensive creativity. 🙂

          Me… I view it as another tool in the toolbox.

        • CalVkg says:

          webb has a very good, confident attitude. maybe after tj i’m over-appreciating that, but i like it

  3. Fragile Freds says:

    Dang your old pal misses Coach of the year Brads! Right about now, dude would be spinning yarns like Confucius on steroids.

    Freds will view it as a tool in the tool box when he shows something during the regular season. Until then, bring on a stack of blue mats and let’s watch him jump.

    Be clear, I hope the guy is a star, but so far he is nothing but potential and back up hope.

  4. Fragile Freds says:

    By the way, Mrs. Freds takes great exception to your wise crack about Freds lack creativity (offensive or otherwise).

    Hold your tongue Bjohnny.

  5. Man of the Norse says:

    Musgrave MIGHT get creative like that with Joe, but just to note, he stated in his exclusive Daily Norseman interview that their focus for Joe would be at QB.

    • Adam Warwas says:

      And I don’t doubt it. But, if they sign a vet and Webb ends up playing third fiddle (or even second) it sure would be a waste of athleticism to have him sit on the bench full time.

      Sometimes a change-up is just as effective as a fastball.

  6. bigjohnny84 says:

    I have seen enough out of Jumpin Joe to know he’s a playmaker. Last preseason and at times the end of last year, I know Freds preseason is a joke, but this guy is fast and elusive. I’m not totally convinced he can do it from the qb spot but he is a threat to take it to the house on any given play. Like Freds I would prefer Cheech get the touches but with Cheech and joe in the game it would be a nightmare for opposing teams.

  7. Malte says:

    Freds.. You say he has done nothing in the NFL? He has proven that he is capable of running the football. He is capable of avoiding the rush:
    This kid is elusive, and he has proven from time to time, that he is capable of be a Running QB..
    look at his two running TDs

    • Fragile Freds says:


      When ” elusive” becomes an NFL stat, or Joe does more that shot put a 6 yard pass, Freds will agree.

  8. krugjr says:

    freds….for better or for worse, JW has changed the face of the Vikings forever… beating the Eagles our draft pick became #12 instead of #6…..hmmmmmmmmmm, I do believe that changed the draft and only time will tell… even if that is the ONLY thing JW ever does in a real game………………………………it was big

    GO VIKES!!!!!

    • Purple Charlie says:

      I like the kid, Great Attiude.
      As Johnny said, Seen enough to know he is a playmaker.
      Needs to be on the field, One way or another.

      • krugjr says:

        yeah, and like Adam said, this new rule will be good for us, and JW…..role player and QB, I like it

        GO VIKES!!!!!

  9. krugjr says:

    freds…..just a wils guess here…you have not purchased a Webb jersey yet?

    GO VIKES!!!!!

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