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Hey everyone ! I have to start by saying that my official Mock draft didn’t get posted because of Adam’s exhaustive schedule. He was in meetings until late and understandably had no way to post it. So, if it does get posted today, it will be after the fact and thus essentially meaningless. My apologies for not getting it out sooner.

As far as the first round, I was very surprised to see that Jimmy Clausen was available at # 30. Secondly, I was getting excited at the prospect of Boise St. CB Kyle Wilson sliding to the Vikings. BUT…..then the Jets surprised me by grabbing ANOTHER high quality corner.

That left the Vikings staring at several closely rated prospects that had little separation in terms of quality.

So, the Vikings flipped their pick to Detroit ( within the division ) for later concideration. For those of you who are drooling over the possibility of drafting Jimmy Clausen, this should not discourage you. The teams that picked following have little need for a QB.

Take a look.

30. Detroit – Matt Stafford

31. Indianapolis – Payton Manning

32. St. Louis – Sam Bradford ( This could be wrecked if the Bills trade up to grab Clausen )

33. Minnesota – We can still grab our man and we moved up 28 spots in round 4 and picked up a 7th.

Never underestimate Speilman and co. – But the question is ……Will the team take Clausen ? At this point, he is probably the “Best Player Available”. My guess here is that the team either –

A) Trades the pick down again to a team that really, really wants Clausen ( Buffalo, Cleveland ?? )

B) Grab one of the following:

OT- Bruce Campbell, Charles Brown

CB – Pat Robinson, Chris Cook   S – Taylor Mays

DT – Brian Price

OLB – Sergio Kindle

WR – Golden Tate

[EDITOR’S NOTE:  I will post Boynton’s Mock Draft below, but I wanted to apologize that I was unable to get it post for him in time.]

Coach Boynton’s official 2nd annual first round Mock draft

OK, so here we are again. Last season my mock draft went fairly well. I hit on Matt Stafford to Detroit at number 1. Followed with Jason Smith to the Rams at 2. I was spot on with D.J. Raji to the Pack at # 9, and Aaron Maybin to the Bills at 11.

However, I missed badly picking Micheal Oher OT going to the Bengals at # 6. I had our own Percy Harvin going to the Jets at # 17, and swung mightily and missing with Eben Britton OT to the Vikings at # 22.

OK, so I didn’t exactly prove myself to be the next Nostradamus……..BUT, that was last year. I am older and wiser now! So, honestly… goes… incredibly accurate prognostic prediction of pigskin picks: ( for what it’s worth !)

1. St. Louis Rams – QB – Sam Bradford – Oklahoma – No brainer here – The team is in negotiations on a contract, so it would be a shock if this one didn’t happen. Suh or McCoy is the better pick, but Bradford is the man.

2. Detroit Lions – DT – Ndamukong Suh – Nebraska – It is almost certain the Lions select a DT here. They could go with Gerald McCoy of Oklahoma. But I’m betting that the Lions select the best player in the draft in Suh.

3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – DT – Gerald McCoy – Oklahoma – The Bucs will be happy to take the DT that Detroit leaves on the table. Can’t lose with either of these choices, and these are the 3 players who will be off the board after this pick although the order is in doubt.

4. Washington Redskins – OT – Russell Okung – Oklahoma State – You never know with Dan Snyder, but he has finally hired a solid coach in Mike Shanahan and proven GM in Bruce Allen who have infinitely more on the ball then the clueless Snyder. Look for them to shore up the offensive line for the newly acquired Donovan McNabb by choosing the best offensive lineman in this years draft.

5. Kansas City Chiefs – OT – Trent Williams – Oklahoma – Could be Eric Berry or Bryan Bulaga here as well. But the KC media is hinting that the Chiefs are desperate to get the best offensive lineman available at # 5. Williams is an excellent lineman from an excellent program.

6. Seattle Seahawks – S – Eric Berry – Tennessee – The Seahawks could probably use an OT more ( Bulaga ?) but Berry is too good to pass up.

7. Cleveland Browns – QB – Jimmy Clausen – Notre Dame – Last year they had two good QB prospects. They released one (Derek Anderson), and traded the other (Brady Quinn).

Holmgren won’t pass on a chance to put his stamp on the program by drafting a franchise QB.

8. Oakland Raiders – The obvious choice here is OT Bryan Bulaga, or Bruce Campbell, but since when does Al Davis do anything normal? Davis loves to show everyone what a superior NFL intellect he has by selecting the player no one else would take given the spot in the draft. It is no secret why he is widely considered the worst GM in the NFL (Apologies to Jerry Jones). This pick could be anyone from Colt McCoy to Dez Bryant to the late Sonny Bono. He doesn’t really need Dez Bryant so that is the logical choice when mental illness and ego mania are factored in. But I’m gonna say Davis gets this one right by going with the physically freakish inside linebacker –  Rolando McClain from Alabama.

9. Buffalo Bills – They need a QB and are disappointed that Clausen is off the board. But it is way too early to draft Tebow or McCoy. Look for the possibility of a trade down for more picks. If they keep the pick, then they should go with OT Bryan Bulaga out of Iowa, who is a great value and definite need at # 9.

10. Jacksonville Jaguars – The Jags are happy to see Dez Bryant still on the board as an upgrade for their average wide receiver corps. But after considering Bryant and OT Anthony Davis, they select DE Derrick Morgan of Georgia Tech because they only generated 14 sacks last season and newly signed Aaron Kampman is coming off a serious knee injury.

11. Denver Broncos – Disappointed that their intended target, Rolando McLain is gone, they regroup and consider NT Dan Williams of Tennessee before settling on the best receiver in this draft class in Dez Bryant – WR – Oklahoma State.

12. Miami Dolphins – NT – Dan Williams – Tennessee – This pick fills a huge void at nose tackle for the Fins. Williams was a 4 year starter and Parcells love this guy.

13. San Francisco 49ers – CB – Joe Haden – Florida – Mike Singletary is a defensive minded coach who loves secondary players with ball skills. Haden is a top 10 talent that is exactly what coach S is looking for.

14.Seattle Seahawks – Back for their second pick of the first round, after addressing secondary needs with Eric Berry the Seahawks now look to address another glaring hole at LT with the retirement of the great Walter Jones. Anthony Davis of Rutgers is an intriguing possibility. He came to the combo out of shape, thus the slide to # 14.  More of a RT, but Pete Carroll will be very happy to find the talented behemoth sitting here waiting to be plucked at # 14.

15. New York Giants – RB – C.J. Spiller – Clemson – The G-men leap at the chance to get the best running back in the draft at # 15. Spiller is a tremendous upgrade and will help take the pressure off Eli Manning.

16. Tennessee Titans – DE – Jerry Hughes – Texas Christian – Projected by “Football Outsiders” as having the most upside of any DE in this class. Jeff Fischer needs a pass rusher badly so this pick makes the most sense. Could also be Jason Pierre-Paul if Fischer decides to roll the dice on a high risk-reward prospect.

17. San Francisco 49ers – The team addressed secondary needs at # 13, so look for them to return to their philosophy of taking the best available player here. The Niners have a huge hole at RT so selecting Bruce Campbell here makes alot of sense. With time, Campbell could become a perennial Pro-Bowler.

18. Pittsburgh Steelers – WR – Golden Tate – Notre Dame – The trade of Santonio Holmes leaves the Steelers with a need at WR. Tate could be an excellent compliment to Hines Ward as a much needed deep threat. They love Maurkice Pouncey, so he is a definite possibility also.

19. Atlanta Falcons – CB – Kyle Wilson – Boise State – The Falcons were terrible in pass defense last season. Since then, they have gotten rid of Chris Houston and replaced him with Dunta Robinson. They need an infusion of young talent and Wilson is a good starting point.

20. Houston Texans – S – Earl Thomas – Texas – Thomas could be a steal this late. Great ball hawking skills and a nose for the ball are his strengths. The Texans could certainly use that.

21. Cincinnati Bengals – TE – Jermaine Gresham – Oklahoma – The Bengals long search for a pass catching tight end stops here. Gresham is a much needed weapon for Carson Palmer and the Bengal offense.

22. New England Patriots – DE – Brandon Graham – Michigan – A playmaking machine who fits into Bill Belichick’s defensive scheme. A high motor pass rusher with good upside. However, if Golden Tate is still on the board, all bets are off as the Pat’s have a need at receiver and the signing of Tory Holt won’t change that. The team is said to be enamored with Tate’s speed and upside.

23. Green Bay Packers – The Packers offensive line is a mess. They can find good value here in Maurkice Pouncey, Mike lupati or Charles Brown. The pick here is Mike lupati of Idaho because of his tremendous power run blocking skills.

24. Philadelphia Eagles – Here is a team that could go in several different directions. There is a need to bolster the offensive line, and defensive secondary. At this point, there is still quality talent available in Charles Brown or Maurkice Pouncey. Pouncy, if still available, is a top 15 talent. As for the secondary, Kareem Jackson can tackle and cover. The pick here is ( Sorry, Viking

fans !!!) – Devin McCourty – CB – Rutgers – He fills a need, and is the best talent available in the secondary at this point. He is an Andy Reid kind of guy.

25. Baltimore Ravens – I am split on this one between CB Kareem Jackson and DT Jared Oldrick. Both are players whom Jim Harbaugh would love to have and both fill a need. My feeling here is that the Ravens go with Oldrick of Penn. St. He would be an immediate upgrade for the Ravens defensive line and is the best value available at this point.

26. Arizona Cardinals – Sean Weatherspoon – ILB – Missouri – He is a natural 4-3 weakside linebacker, but would be an excellent fit in the middle of a 3-4. He will help cover the loss of Carlos Dansby. Weatherspoon is fast and aggressive and can cover all over the field. DE Jason Pierre-Paul is also a great fit if available at this point.

27. Dallas Cowboys – S – Taylor Mays – USC – After releasing Ken Hamlin, the Boys’ need to secure a talented safety in a division with Eli Manning, Donovan McNabb and (gulp) Kevin Kolb. Look for super genius Jerry Jones to try to make a splash with Mays. This is a great fit and even Jones should be able to see the wisdom of drafting him.

28. San Diego Chargers – RB – Ryan Mathews – Fresno State – TheChargers lost LaDanian but re-signed Darren Sproles. There is a definite need for an every down workhorse type back who can move the pile. The Chargers could also use a NT and could reach for Brian Price. Also, Sergio Kindle is still there if they decide they want an OLB who can get after the QB.

29. New York Jets – DE – Jason Pierre-Paul – South Florida – The Jets are elated that a player of this quality falls into their lap this late. Pierre-Paul is probably a top 15 talent who is this years slider. He is raw and offers a high risk-reward. Reminiscent of Demarcus Ware, who also came from a small school (Troy) and dominated. Some GM’s warn that he could be a typical Bust type who started only ½ of his games last season. If he can be motivated, his ceiling is as high as anyone in this draft.

30. Minnesota Vikings – The Vikings have needs at CB, ILB, interior offensive line, QB and DT – The signing of Lito Sheppard should not discourage the team for taking a hard look at LB. Here is what I see as available at this point:

1.       Kareem Jackson – CB – Alabama – A rising prospect and an excellent fit. He can run, hit and tackle. He comes from an elite program and fits the criteria of “Picking the best available player”. Could also concider CB’s Patrick Robinson of Florida St. or Chris Cook of Virginia.

2.        Brian Price – DT – UCLA – You either love him or you don’t. Many draft pendants consider him the most underrated player in the draft. Q1 sports has him as a top 10 talent. He also fits Leslie Frazier’s Tampa-2 system and could become an elite DT in a year or two when the ageless Pat Williams finally hangs up his cleats. This pick would be an absolute steal in round 2, but a bit of a reach here in my opinion.

3.       Sergio Kindle – OLB/DE – Texas – Versatile player who could step in and start when needed (Chad Greenway could be a free agent, and/or Ben Leber ages out. Kindle can rush the QB or drop into coverage. An excellent talent at number 30, some mock drafts have him going as high as # 12 to K.C.

4.       Maurkice Pouncey – C/G – Florida – Not a sexy pick, but in many ways, this could be a really smart one. A tremendous value if available at this point. The Steelers are very high on him, so he may be long gone by now. He is thought by many NFL scouts to have elite potential at center and would be an upgrade over either John Sullivan or Herrera at guard. Could probably start immediately.

5.       Tim Tebow – There are rumors that if Tebow is available, the Vikings would grab him. If so, I think they would probably trade down first. I just don’t see this happening. There is too much talent up for grabs to reach this high for a player with so many question marks.

6.       Colt McCoy – QB – Texas – “See Tim Tebow above”. This is way too high to pick either of these quarterbacks.

My best guess: 1. I think there is a very good chance that the Vikings trade out of the first round in exchange for more picks later. The talent level is very deep in this draft and the team can probably move back several slots and still get their man.

2. If the team truly goes with the “Best Available Player” at # 30, then if any of the before mentioned selections slip down the team should pounce on them.

That said:

With the 30th selection in the 2010 NFL draft, the Minnesota Viking select:

Kareem Jackson – CB – Alabama – He is simply too good to pass on this late. If he is there, this is the pick! If Devin McCourty is there, then he is the man, but don’t count on that. As for Tebow, the words “Slim and none” come to mind. All said, Pouncey might be the best selection.

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26 Responses to “Move down should benefit Vikings”

  1. Jerkpepper says:

    What a horrible and terrible mock draft!!!! I heard most teams tried to trade for Hank Baskett last night but the Colts were too smart to deal him.

  2. Jer-Man says:

    Sure, we may need secondary people, but also a QB for the future. Favre is fantastic, but we must look down the road further. Jackson ia alright, but will we make the Big Dance w/ him @ the helm? I hope that Colt McCoy is in the mix for the 4 players we might go for-he’s the best in all that’s left-look @ those stats! Take a chance-he’s a character person as well and good for the team morale…Draft him, sir…

  3. krugjr says:

    looks like some team would have to give up a 4 and a 5 to move up tonight for pick 1 or 2…….someone would have to like clausen or colt a lot to make that deal….

    GO VIKES!!!!!

  4. krugjr says:

    next fat man offense…..Brown
    next fat man defense…..Price
    game starts for Clausen & McCoy
    game starts for RB Gerhart

    bottom of 2:
    fat men….Asamoah, Ducasse

    GO VIKES!!!!!

  5. krugjr says:

    Greg Bishop writes that the Vikings had called cornerback Kyle Wilson, whom the Jets picked one spot ahead of Minnesota’s slot.

    New York Times

  6. B. Grant says:

    By the way, why were the Jets picking ahead of us to begin with? Was there a coin flip? We don’t win those very often in Minnesota.

  7. Lost Viking says:

    Viking blew this draft by waiting for players to fall to them.

    McCourty at # 27 and Kyle Wilson at #29 left Vike with Jimmy Clausen.

    Vike can still recover by trading rights to Clausen twice. First trade was for coveted #2 in second round. Can this be traded for Bill or Jaguar #1 in 2011?

    • Tomb... says:

      Take Clausen…it’s not often you get a QB projected in the first round, that could easily be a franchise QB, for second round money…and he will likely have the luxury of sitting behind Favre for a year or two learning the system.

      It’s like the stars and planets aligned to make this happen.

      Which means it won’t happen I suppose. I better check the fridge and make sure I have an ample amount of beer.

  8. fozz44 says:

    I agree completely w/ Tomb. There aren’t enough impact players left for the positions the Vikes need. Clausen’s off the field rap has been contradicted quite well by many experts, most recently Jon Gruden.
    His stats last year were exceptional…especially with no talent up front to protect…and little skill outside of Golden Tate. Gruden went on and on about his year compared to Bradford/McCoy/Tebow…because he got it done by performing in the 4th quarter under pressure, while the other 3 enjoyed blowout after blowout. I think he could be a solid, pocket quarterback who could hand off to Peterson and throw to Rice, Harvin, and others (Dugan!) for years to come.

    Had no idea he’d drop, but now that he’s there, I’d jump on it.

    • krugjr says:

      Spielman knew that teams can trade for pick #33, so Clausen must not be on our board or we’d already have him…..we’ll do linemen and DBs next and find “clay” in rd 4 (Skelton or Kafka)

    • Viking John says:

      Chilly and Spielman must really not like him to take him. Like you said, second round for a first round talent. Take the chance and draft him.
      Go Vikes

      • Tomb... says:

        Agreed John. What are they seeing that they don’t like about the kid?

        I don’t get it.

        I am definitely presuming someone (Browns?) trades up to grab him.

        Hell, the Vikes take McCoy–because Clausen’s gone–and I wouldn’t be unhappy. I’d like to see some hope of life after Favre.

        T-Jack or Sage just aren’t going to cut it.

      • Purple Charlie says:

        T-Jack and Sage………………………
        Yeah, I agree, Would be nice to have something to look forward to as far as QB.

  9. Viking John says:

    Like I have been reading today, if the Vikes didn’t take him at 30, why would they take him at 34? If you would have liked the kid enough, you take him. My guess is that we will be taking Cook-CB Virgina. That would be my bet. Maybe Mays, but I doubt it.
    Go Vikes

    • krugjr says:

      John……Cook is the classic “tweener”, too big for CB and too slow for CB…..most ratings I’ve seen have him mid to late 2, not top of 2…..Allen’s the best S @ 34 and CB value is now late rd 2… it’s a fat man for value @ 34……probby

      GO VIKES!!!!!

      • Viking John says:

        Who is the best fat man in your opion at this time?
        Go Vikes

      • krugjr says:

        VJ…….Brown on Offense ; Price and L Joseph on defense, (DT)
        rated 30-35 on most charts….S Nate Allen is looking very appealing also at top of rd 2….value on all these picks starts to change if we pass on QBs and/or trade down….but any of those players would work to start tonight!

        GO VIKES!!!!!

  10. coolio says:

    Think about it. Were the Saints, Rams, or Colts going to select Clausen? No. They did the trade so they would get Clausen plus benefits such as paying him less, moving up 28 picks in the 4th round, and adding a 7th rounder. This is a no question pick. I’d die if we didn’t get Clausen.(not really).

    If the Rams somehow trade their 2nd round number 1 pick to the Browns or Bills then we atleast have Sergio Kindle.

    • Viking John says:

      I thought Kindle is a 3-4 guy who has a bad knee that might need micro-fracture surgery?
      How about Safford, I read he can play tackle or guard?
      Go Vikes

  11. coolio says:

    We need a QB of the future. when you get a thought to be top 10 pick almost fall to where you are you have to pick him. The Vikings could very well trade up to number 1.

  12. wtfvikesfan says:

    Chip Scoogins just said on KFAN, that Vikings will draft defense and are looking to trade down.

  13. wtfvikesfan says:

    Chip said if Vikings draft a Qb it would be Mccoy.

  14. B. Grant says:

    Chip helped ruin the AV, so I don’t care what he says, wtf. I really don’t think anyone outside the triangle knows, and as much as I am a fan of the big boys, there might be good reason to take Clausen. These “experts” know much less than they think they know. (Was there a mock draft in the land that had Tebow going to Denver?) Well, mine did, but now I can’t find the darn thing!

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